MuDD

We should always get involved in the region IF the fight is right. It wasn't when it came to Iraq. But like the boy who cried wolf maybe one day the fight will be right in the Middle East and the public won't support it.

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IMO the threat of the Taliban is up there with the threat of ISIS. There is a real danger that in the next few years Pakistan will fall to them.

Unfortunately Afghanistan is too difficult to hold. You'd need a constant occupying force of around 500,000 troops to maintain security in that country.

These are scary times.

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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Robb - My good man. (U19350)
posted 22 seconds ago
IMO the threat of the Taliban is up there with the threat of ISIS. There is a real danger that in the next few years Pakistan will fall to them.

Unfortunately Afghanistan is too difficult to hold. You'd need a constant occupying force of around 500,000 troops to maintain security in that country.

These are scary times.
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When you consider Pakistan is nuclear.
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Exactly.

I read an interesting article a while back on the threat of the Taliban in Karachi.

The police there are losing on average one of their members each day from murder by the Taliban. They risk their lives to go into the bad neighbourhoods and arrest the Taliban members and then see them all walk free because the Taliban intimidate witnesses into not going to court.

Morale is at an all time low in the police force when you see your colleagues being killed every day for nothing.

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 30 minutes ago
Btw it is being reported that the Moroccan man was killed by someone suffering from schizophrenia and that person is in a psychiatric hospital.
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That must make it okay then

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comment by Robb - My good man. (U19350)
posted 40 minutes ago
MuDD

We should always get involved in the region IF the fight is right. It wasn't when it came to Iraq. But like the boy who cried wolf maybe one day the fight will be right in the Middle East and the public won't support it.
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Robb, the region is far too complex for us to get involved. For example, we removed a brutal dictator in Iraq and look at what happened.

It is about time the countries in the region stepped up and dealt with their issues and stop wasting our money or risking the lives of our soldiers

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comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Robb - My good man. (U19350)
posted 40 minutes ago
MuDD

We should always get involved in the region IF the fight is right. It wasn't when it came to Iraq. But like the boy who cried wolf maybe one day the fight will be right in the Middle East and the public won't support it.
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Robb, the region is far too complex for us to get involved. For example, we removed a brutal dictator in Iraq and look at what happened.

It is about time the countries in the region stepped up and dealt with their issues and stop wasting our money or risking the lives of our soldiers
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Easier said than done. Even without Western intervention the politics of all the competing religions there make for some complicated sorting out of the issues.
Unfortunately genocide is quite likely in some of these regions if we leave them alone. Okay, the West is hardly innocent but I doubt anyone in the West would purposely behead people and murder women and children in cold blood.

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 57 seconds ago
In an ideal world we would not get involved.But for nuclear and oil reasons we may in the future.Atm the US are attacking the Taliban and IS with others.Is it wrong?I am not sure there is a wrong and right at times.
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The lines are blurred mate. If we wanted to end or severely destroy extremist radicals from the ME, we need to start with Saudi Arabia

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I read an interesting thing the other day that MuDD with his oil experience can confirm.

That the US now are the biggest oil producing nation in the world with their shale oil reserves and are driving down the price of oil in order to bankrupt Russia and the oil states in OPEC.

Saudi Arabia are in league with the US and with their vast oil reserves can take a temporary hit in oil prices.

Any truth to that MuDD?

Not entirely accurate Robb, they cannot bankrupt the opec countries because most of them can make a profit even if oil is sold at $8 a barrel.

Russia is the main target but it appears the Saudis are also miffed at the US because they are reducing their interest in Saudi Oil. However they are in cahoots, same with OPEC.

The price will go back up in good time but by then Putin will be royally fecked.

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by ManUtdDaredevil (U9612)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 57 seconds ago
In an ideal world we would not get involved.But for nuclear and oil reasons we may in the future.Atm the US are attacking the Taliban and IS with others.Is it wrong?I am not sure there is a wrong and right at times.
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The lines are blurred mate. If we wanted to end or severely destroy extremist radicals from the ME, we need to start with Saudi Arabia
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There is a clear double standard because Saudi is such an economic powerhouse and is largely friendly to the West.
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Whilst supporting terrorism

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I thought that at the time there wasn't much furore as we should have expected about the Malaysian airliner shot down.

I suppose a confrontation with Russia would have serious repercussions across the globe.
Russia also back Assad in Syria on account of a naval base there.

The oil price reduction is seriously damaging Russia's currency and with it, it's economy.

This too is a double edged sword, bankrupt Russia and people will start to look at the capitalism project as a failure.

However in the short term many are feeling the pain as oil exploration is at a real low with the industries that hit's.

Schlumberger announced 9000 job cuts.. we're supposed to go down to $40 a barrel!

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Also MUDD, leading with your line :
Less Than 2 Percent Of Terrorist Attacks In The E.U. Are Religiously Motivated.

In the wake of this islamaphobic murder, and those grenade attacks on the mosque and other 40 odd attacks - this % has probably increased!!!

Humans like war, will never change, can pretend as much as we want but there will always be death caused at our own hand

comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 2 minutes ago
Sanctions are also hitting Russia.Putin only has himself to blame for that.
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He is a clown, Russia is not what it used to be, As much as we all believe we are powerful, it is time to bow down and recognise the one true, super power.

China

India might well be the superpower of the future.

Unlike the UK, i'm glad my super country, Australia, full of resources is buddying up with China and India.

A lot of african nations are doing the same thing. Europe needs to wake up and do it quickly.

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