comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe it's something to do with the reduced quality
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Or peoples egos and need to feel relevant and knowledgeable once something is mainstream.

Or maybe we're all just not sheep that's blinded by the hype.

god forbid people have valid issues with how the show has changed

comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 2 minutes ago
Or maybe we're all just not sheep that's blinded by the hype.
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Ah right. So everyone who enjoyed that episode are sheep.

We are so lucky to have people like you who are so much better and switched on. Thanks.

You're welcome. We're all not gifted so those that are have to stand up in the face of adversity and be heard.

You probably think the earth is till flat.

Oh yeah, there will definitely be a correlation between those who enjoyed the latest GoT episode and those who think the world is flat. Definitely.

For the record..I said they did the White Walkers and the Night King dirty...not that the episode was not enjoyable.

It's just had one of the most anti-climatic endings ever for something they've built up for 7 seasons.

His lieutenants stood and did nothing all episode but they'll happily walk for miles to pick up random babies in the woods to make more of their kind

Anyway I don't think they are done just yet. That spiral fire in the crypts at the end signals something for me.

comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 8 minutes ago
god forbid people have valid issues with how the show has changed
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The show moved away from the books long before it got to the end of them. The pretty much became two separate entities. If you are still trying to see them as the same, then that is your own issue. GRRM is a massive bell who will probably never finish writing them anyway (particularly now he has made his money from this and has easy money from GoT history).

I literally think that some people just watch the episodes now just looking for something to criticise. Then when you go on a forum to discuss the latest epsiode, it is just full of the egotistical GoT hipsters (as if there is such a thing ) talking about how it used to be better, they could write it better and make better decisions etc. Rather than just being able to discuss the storylines and implications.

If we can't talk about the latest episode, what are we supposed to talk about?

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 8 minutes ago
god forbid people have valid issues with how the show has changed
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The show moved away from the books long before it got to the end of them. The pretty much became two separate entities. If you are still trying to see them as the same, then that is your own issue. GRRM is a massive bell who will probably never finish writing them anyway (particularly now he has made his money from this and has easy money from GoT history).

I literally think that some people just watch the episodes now just looking for something to criticise. Then when you go on a forum to discuss the latest epsiode, it is just full of the egotistical GoT hipsters (as if there is such a thing) talking about how it used to be better, they could write it better and make better decisions etc. Rather than just being able to discuss the storylines and implications.
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Yeah I agree with that. There’s a certain amount of irony in the perception being based on an incorrect interpretation of what’s been going on too.

There is an undeniable drop in quality but the show is still great

My heart was pounding so hard for so long last night my fitbit congratulated me on the workout once it ended

Don't mind reading criticism but when it extends to downright hating the show now and trying to convince others to hate it too its a bit lame

have been since the beginning but didn't really enjoy the episode as much as I thought I would, the amount of situations in where people were saved at the last second was in the end way too predictable

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 39 minutes ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 8 minutes ago
god forbid people have valid issues with how the show has changed
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The show moved away from the books long before it got to the end of them. The pretty much became two separate entities. If you are still trying to see them as the same, then that is your own issue. GRRM is a massive bell who will probably never finish writing them anyway (particularly now he has made his money from this and has easy money from GoT history).

I literally think that some people just watch the episodes now just looking for something to criticise. Then when you go on a forum to discuss the latest epsiode, it is just full of the egotistical GoT hipsters (as if there is such a thing) talking about how it used to be better, they could write it better and make better decisions etc. Rather than just being able to discuss the storylines and implications.
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I now they became separate entities, anyone who has watched past season 4 can see the quality of dialogue and story lines dropped dramatically. I think it could have been done better and theres nothing wrong with that. Its not hipster to have a valid issue with whats happened to the series.

Some people will just defend it to the death

I still watch the show as i want to see how it ends

if George was still writing them arya would have been stabbed in the face by the nk and that would have been that

You get the feeling that the show is afraid to kill off popular characters now.

Who was the last major death we've had? more specifically of a 'good guy'

Apart from Reek in the last episode.

lyanna mormont would have been stepped on or smashed against a wall, but noooo apparently it decides 'hey, im going to eat this one' unlucky for every other solider it previously killed in 1 second

You get the feeling that the show is afraid to kill off popular characters now.

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definitely seems like its moving more and more to a happy rosey ending

I literally think that some people just watch the episodes now just looking for something to criticise. Then when you go on a forum to discuss the latest epsiode, it is just full of the egotistical GoT hipsters (as if there is such a thing) talking about how it used to be better, they could write it better and make better decisions etc. Rather than just being able to discuss the storylines and implications.
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I see what you're saying but people do have vaild reasons for thinking the show declined in quality once GRRM's influence on the show diminished post S4.

It's the little things, the interplay between the characters isn't as crisp as it was. There's been a strong emphasis on promoting archetypal heroes and villains, washing away the shades of grey. It too brazen with how it sidelines characters (e.g. Tyrion) where before almost everyone had a strong purpose no matter how small it was in the big picture. The beginning of S6 E10 where Cersci destroys the citadel was a great example of the shows callous nature post S4 when it comes to characters it doesn't need any more, etc...

It's still great don't get my wrong, but it definitely has changed for the worse since S4. The "hipsters" aren't wrong about that.

I don't mind a happy ending...just don't hand to them on a platter. Totally negates what makes the show so enjoyable.

are they waiting to kill major characters off during the battle of kings landing? by other human people? I mean the nk will go down as one of the lamest deaths for such a built up character in history I mean the fecker took down a dragon/survived a full on fire blast from a dragon and look how he went out

are they waiting to kill major characters off during the battle of kings landing? by other human people? I mean the nk will go down as one of the lamest deaths for such a built up character in history I mean the fecker took down a dragon/survived a full on fire blast from a dragon and look how he went out
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Yeah I'll give you that. Killing him in principle early like that was fine, with all the conspiracies surrounding him it was actually the best possible twist they could've done, bold but clever writing decision (only GoT could make the simplest solution the most shocking lol) - but the how, who and when within the episode were all debatable.

I will say Jon's taking a lot of flack for his inept tactics during that battle but The Night King wasn't much better. You have an overwhelming man advantage, any fallen you can resurrect only strengthening that advantage, you have a dragon that can melt your opponents only tangible fall back haven like butter..... I'll just bum rush it and clean up once my armies inside (without killing my opponents dragons first).

If he had any tactical nous at all, or wasn't so unbelievably arrogant, he'd have won the battle instantly. He gave them that glimmer of hope even with their own terrible battle plan

What is the point of Bran now?
He contributed nothing to the battle.
He was just warging for most of it. Was he that bored that he decided to watch something else?

And Jonboy. Should have stayed on The Waltons.

We don't even know the White Walkers like that though.

What is it about Bran that he wants so much? other than him being the 3 Eyed Raven.

What was the purpose of the march to the wall and then Winterfell? They just go where the winter goes?

We know the Children of the Forest created them to fight against the first men...are they still programmed to kill all men?

Why did they even create this Night King character in the first place?

All we knew is that when they arrive, death is certain.

I actually believe that there was absolutely no thought at all given to the White Walkers and they just made it up along the way.

Yeah I'll give you that. Killing him in principle early like that was fine, with all the conspiracies surrounding him it was actually the best possible twist they could've done, bold but clever writing decision (only GoT could make the simplest solution the most shocking lol) - but the how, who and when within the episode were all debatable.

I will say Jon's taking a lot of flack for his inept tactics during that battle but The Night King wasn't much better. You have an overwhelming man advantage, any fallen you can resurrect only strengthening that advantage, you have a dragon that can melt your opponents only tangible fall back haven like butter..... I'll just bum rush it and clean up once my armies inside (without killing my opponents dragons first).

If he had any tactical nous at all, or wasn't so unbelievably arrogant, he'd have won the battle instantly. He gave them that glimmer of hope even with their own terrible battle plan
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the way the battle started was brilliant(not tactically)but how the dothraki were just wiped out like that and then it just got worse and worse battle wise as it went on, the dragons were flying around doing nothing for about 10mins it seemed like