Still struggling to see the difference between right now and weeks into the future I see.
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comment by RB&W "PPE for NHS heroes" (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
Front line NHS staff don't have access to them.
The Premier league seem to have them.
Its called 'doing the right thing'.
But you are scouse. How would you know?
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You're just saying anything now. PL don't have the testing kits
Sigh. If it was tomorrow, I'd be with you. It isn't. Stop crying.
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But you wouldn't really would you?
Stop bleating about your warped concept of the injustice of this title possibly being denied to you..
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 46 minutes ago
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posted 59 seconds ago
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posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 46 seconds ago
It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
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It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
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No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
Yes he would
And stop bleating about your warped concept of the injustice of finishing the season.
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 28 seconds ago
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posted 59 seconds ago
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posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 46 seconds ago
It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
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It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
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No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
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But you also said that they're facked anyway because of Amazon/Facebook etc. So they will have to survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union anyway.
Why would they make a deal then? What is in it for them?
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 40 minutes ago
It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death.
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Nobody wants to owe these companies a favour.
The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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Exactly.
Any "solution" would involve promises made to Sky and BT which would preclude/hinder deals with Amazon/Netflix/Facebook.
Why would SKY and BT do a favour if they're on the way out? There are many logical vacuums with your comment here. You haven't thought it through.
Why do you think they'd be so ready to "forgive" the debt?
PL will want to make a clean cut at all times. Any deal will compromise future earnings by limiting the space for competitive bidding.
Sky and BT know competition is coming and if the Prem bosses are stupid at this time then they will be hogtied and ridden for the next few years.
I dare not believe any such company would give up hundreds of millions without an ace up their sleeve. This is a brutal environment.
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Again, I havent said anything about "forgiving a debt". I said solutions can be found to suit both parties moving forward. How long would Sky Sports or BT Sport last without rights to the Premier League? That's their cash cow, nobody is paying 40 quid a month to watch egg chasing and darts.
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comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 28 seconds ago
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posted 46 minutes ago
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posted 59 seconds ago
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posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 46 seconds ago
It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
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It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
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No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
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But you also said that they're facked anyway because of Amazon/Facebook etc. So they will have to survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union anyway.
Why would they make a deal then? What is in it for them?
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Let me break it down further then, as I thought it would already be obvious. Sky and BT need to be in that bidding war next time it comes around. Given Sky's long term partnership with the PL and their need to show their product, why wouldn't they look to find a solution given they'd be living on borrowed time without it?
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 28 seconds ago
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posted 46 minutes ago
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posted 59 seconds ago
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posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 46 seconds ago
It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
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It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
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No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
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But you also said that they're facked anyway because of Amazon/Facebook etc. So they will have to survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union anyway.
Why would they make a deal then? What is in it for them?
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Let me break it down further then, as I thought it would already be obvious. Sky and BT need to be in that bidding war next time it comes around. Given Sky's long term partnership with the PL and their need to show their product, why wouldn't they look to find a solution given they'd be living on borrowed time without it?
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No reason they shouldn't look for a solution, and no reason it needs to be accepted.
Well today's figure is 633. Still high obviously, but the daily number trend is still going down. Let's hope that continues.
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Tuesday is usually the day of the sharpest increase. This is the lowest it's been on a Tuesday this month.
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The care home deaths are very high.
Also we don't count deaths at home.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
The care home deaths are very high.
Also we don't count deaths at home.
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Government gerrymandering to make the figures seem lower.
Hope the government don't get caught misquoting their numbers. They'll get banned from Europe 😂😂
the most important thing is we stay the course and see this out.
the virus spread due to inaction at the start. Too quick and action to return to normal will cause the same spike.
That does not mean we hang round in this state for 3 months. It means we are cautious.
the care homes DISASTER is a disgrace but caused by the government herd immunity rubbish. these were not locked down until many visitors were let around old folks and it was way too late.
as per the overall EU and WHO figures are being updated with confirmed, probable and all deaths outside hospitals so everyone can compare while we are twiddling thumbs.
if the peak has passed we need to get this thing killed off.
Liverpool fans seem to forget that they were quickly heading towards the biggest bottle job ever seen before COVID reared its head.
Talk of the treble, the invincibles & back-to-back European champions all squashed within a fortnight and almost 10 games had passed without a half decent performance. Coronavirus has absolutely bailed you out & I think it would be unfair on the rest of the league, for a team that looked like they wouldn't win another game this season, to be handed the title.
Void the season and start again.
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 2 hours, 12 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 28 seconds ago
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posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 46 seconds ago
It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But you also said that they're facked anyway because of Amazon/Facebook etc. So they will have to survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union anyway.
Why would they make a deal then? What is in it for them?
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Let me break it down further then, as I thought it would already be obvious. Sky and BT need to be in that bidding war next time it comes around. Given Sky's long term partnership with the PL and their need to show their product, why wouldn't they look to find a solution given they'd be living on borrowed time without it?
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Bidding is open to everyone so that wouldn't be the prize they'd want for making this concession. Their bid will win if its the best bid, regardless of anything else. Also, your logic is that they're living on borrowed time already so why would they not claim their money back? If they don't claim this money, will that mean they are no longer on borrowed time?
There is no reason for Sky and BT to give up millions of pounds. You think they'll give up this money out of the goodness of their hearts? If they do its because they've been promised something, no doubt.
comment by RonAlvinho - Victoria Concordia Pathetic (U6117)
posted 8 minutes ago
Liverpool fans seem to forget that they were quickly heading towards the biggest bottle job ever seen before COVID reared its head.
Talk of the treble, the invincibles & back-to-back European champions all squashed within a fortnight and almost 10 games had passed without a half decent performance. Coronavirus has absolutely bailed you out & I think it would be unfair on the rest of the league, for a team that looked like they wouldn't win another game this season, to be handed the title.
Void the season and start again.
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Shut up
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by RonAlvinho - Victoria Concordia Pathetic (U6117)
posted 8 minutes ago
Liverpool fans seem to forget that they were quickly heading towards the biggest bottle job ever seen before COVID reared its head.
Talk of the treble, the invincibles & back-to-back European champions all squashed within a fortnight and almost 10 games had passed without a half decent performance. Coronavirus has absolutely bailed you out & I think it would be unfair on the rest of the league, for a team that looked like they wouldn't win another game this season, to be handed the title.
Void the season and start again.
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Shut up
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posted on 28/4/20
Still struggling to see the difference between right now and weeks into the future I see.
posted on 28/4/20
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posted on 28/4/20
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posted on 28/4/20
comment by RB&W "PPE for NHS heroes" (U21434)
posted 5 minutes ago
Front line NHS staff don't have access to them.
The Premier league seem to have them.
Its called 'doing the right thing'.
But you are scouse. How would you know?
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You're just saying anything now. PL don't have the testing kits
posted on 28/4/20
Sigh. If it was tomorrow, I'd be with you. It isn't. Stop crying.
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But you wouldn't really would you?
Stop bleating about your warped concept of the injustice of this title possibly being denied to you..
posted on 28/4/20
Stop talking $hite.
posted on 28/4/20
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 46 seconds ago
It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
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It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
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No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
posted on 28/4/20
Yes he would
And stop bleating about your warped concept of the injustice of finishing the season.
posted on 28/4/20
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 46 seconds ago
It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
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It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
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No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But you also said that they're facked anyway because of Amazon/Facebook etc. So they will have to survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union anyway.
Why would they make a deal then? What is in it for them?
posted on 28/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 40 minutes ago
It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death.
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Nobody wants to owe these companies a favour.
The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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Exactly.
Any "solution" would involve promises made to Sky and BT which would preclude/hinder deals with Amazon/Netflix/Facebook.
Why would SKY and BT do a favour if they're on the way out? There are many logical vacuums with your comment here. You haven't thought it through.
Why do you think they'd be so ready to "forgive" the debt?
PL will want to make a clean cut at all times. Any deal will compromise future earnings by limiting the space for competitive bidding.
Sky and BT know competition is coming and if the Prem bosses are stupid at this time then they will be hogtied and ridden for the next few years.
I dare not believe any such company would give up hundreds of millions without an ace up their sleeve. This is a brutal environment.
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Again, I havent said anything about "forgiving a debt". I said solutions can be found to suit both parties moving forward. How long would Sky Sports or BT Sport last without rights to the Premier League? That's their cash cow, nobody is paying 40 quid a month to watch egg chasing and darts.
posted on 28/4/20
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posted on 28/4/20
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posted 59 seconds ago
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posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 46 seconds ago
It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
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It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
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No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But you also said that they're facked anyway because of Amazon/Facebook etc. So they will have to survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union anyway.
Why would they make a deal then? What is in it for them?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Let me break it down further then, as I thought it would already be obvious. Sky and BT need to be in that bidding war next time it comes around. Given Sky's long term partnership with the PL and their need to show their product, why wouldn't they look to find a solution given they'd be living on borrowed time without it?
posted on 28/4/20
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by Champers - Pow! Right in the kisser (U6859)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 46 seconds ago
It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
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No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
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But you also said that they're facked anyway because of Amazon/Facebook etc. So they will have to survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union anyway.
Why would they make a deal then? What is in it for them?
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Let me break it down further then, as I thought it would already be obvious. Sky and BT need to be in that bidding war next time it comes around. Given Sky's long term partnership with the PL and their need to show their product, why wouldn't they look to find a solution given they'd be living on borrowed time without it?
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No reason they shouldn't look for a solution, and no reason it needs to be accepted.
posted on 28/4/20
Well today's figure is 633. Still high obviously, but the daily number trend is still going down. Let's hope that continues.
posted on 28/4/20
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posted on 28/4/20
Tuesday is usually the day of the sharpest increase. This is the lowest it's been on a Tuesday this month.
posted on 28/4/20
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posted on 28/4/20
The care home deaths are very high.
Also we don't count deaths at home.
posted on 28/4/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 2 minutes ago
The care home deaths are very high.
Also we don't count deaths at home.
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Government gerrymandering to make the figures seem lower.
posted on 28/4/20
Hope the government don't get caught misquoting their numbers. They'll get banned from Europe 😂😂
posted on 28/4/20
the most important thing is we stay the course and see this out.
the virus spread due to inaction at the start. Too quick and action to return to normal will cause the same spike.
That does not mean we hang round in this state for 3 months. It means we are cautious.
the care homes DISASTER is a disgrace but caused by the government herd immunity rubbish. these were not locked down until many visitors were let around old folks and it was way too late.
as per the overall EU and WHO figures are being updated with confirmed, probable and all deaths outside hospitals so everyone can compare while we are twiddling thumbs.
if the peak has passed we need to get this thing killed off.
posted on 28/4/20
Liverpool fans seem to forget that they were quickly heading towards the biggest bottle job ever seen before COVID reared its head.
Talk of the treble, the invincibles & back-to-back European champions all squashed within a fortnight and almost 10 games had passed without a half decent performance. Coronavirus has absolutely bailed you out & I think it would be unfair on the rest of the league, for a team that looked like they wouldn't win another game this season, to be handed the title.
Void the season and start again.
posted on 28/4/20
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 46 seconds ago
It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
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It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
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No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
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But you also said that they're facked anyway because of Amazon/Facebook etc. So they will have to survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union anyway.
Why would they make a deal then? What is in it for them?
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Let me break it down further then, as I thought it would already be obvious. Sky and BT need to be in that bidding war next time it comes around. Given Sky's long term partnership with the PL and their need to show their product, why wouldn't they look to find a solution given they'd be living on borrowed time without it?
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Bidding is open to everyone so that wouldn't be the prize they'd want for making this concession. Their bid will win if its the best bid, regardless of anything else. Also, your logic is that they're living on borrowed time already so why would they not claim their money back? If they don't claim this money, will that mean they are no longer on borrowed time?
There is no reason for Sky and BT to give up millions of pounds. You think they'll give up this money out of the goodness of their hearts? If they do its because they've been promised something, no doubt.
posted on 28/4/20
comment by RonAlvinho - Victoria Concordia Pathetic (U6117)
posted 8 minutes ago
Liverpool fans seem to forget that they were quickly heading towards the biggest bottle job ever seen before COVID reared its head.
Talk of the treble, the invincibles & back-to-back European champions all squashed within a fortnight and almost 10 games had passed without a half decent performance. Coronavirus has absolutely bailed you out & I think it would be unfair on the rest of the league, for a team that looked like they wouldn't win another game this season, to be handed the title.
Void the season and start again.
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Shut up
posted on 28/4/20
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by RonAlvinho - Victoria Concordia Pathetic (U6117)
posted 8 minutes ago
Liverpool fans seem to forget that they were quickly heading towards the biggest bottle job ever seen before COVID reared its head.
Talk of the treble, the invincibles & back-to-back European champions all squashed within a fortnight and almost 10 games had passed without a half decent performance. Coronavirus has absolutely bailed you out & I think it would be unfair on the rest of the league, for a team that looked like they wouldn't win another game this season, to be handed the title.
Void the season and start again.
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Shut up
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I'll shut up if you shut down, preferably your phone, computer & and any other device which gives you access to the internet?
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