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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
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It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
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It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
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No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
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But you also said that they're facked anyway because of Amazon/Facebook etc. So they will have to survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union anyway.
Why would they make a deal then? What is in it for them?
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Let me break it down further then, as I thought it would already be obvious. Sky and BT need to be in that bidding war next time it comes around. Given Sky's long term partnership with the PL and their need to show their product, why wouldn't they look to find a solution given they'd be living on borrowed time without it?
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Bidding is open to everyone so that wouldn't be the prize they'd want for making this concession. Their bid will win if its the best bid, regardless of anything else. Also, your logic is that they're living on borrowed time already so why would they not claim their money back? If they don't claim this money, will that mean they are no longer on borrowed time?
There is no reason for Sky and BT to give up millions of pounds. You think they'll give up this money out of the goodness of their hearts? If they do its because they've been promised something, no doubt.
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Your last line says more than I could, and pretty much sums up exactly where my mindset was at with my argument. I could be wrong obviously, I don't work on that industry so I'm speculating, but I know from running my own business that upsetting my primary supplier would be a poor decision that would affect my profitability long term.
I've enjoyed our back and forths during all of this though. I think I'll miss it when everything gets back to normal
comment by RonAlvinho - Victoria Concordia Pathetic (U6117)
posted 9 minutes ago
Liverpool fans seem to forget that they were quickly heading towards the biggest bottle job ever seen before COVID reared its head.
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That's impossible. Nothing can beat the transition from Fergie to Moyes when it comes to bottle jobs. I mean, what were they thinking? 25 years of glory farted away.
Your last line says more than I could, and pretty much sums up exactly where my mindset was at with my argument. I could be wrong obviously, I don't work on that industry so I'm speculating, but I know from running my own business that upsetting my primary supplier would be a poor decision that would affect my profitability long term.
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Yeah but if you know that that supplier is about to fack you off, do you start writing off unpaid bills or do you start asking for every penny?
If the supplier runs into trouble and they want your help, you'll give it to them only on condition that they don't get rid of you, or for some other benefit, no?
I've enjoyed our back and forths during all of this though. I think I'll miss it when everything gets back to normal
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Yeah, you're what forums need IMO and been civil throughout. Some people don't take the back and forth so well and you wonder what the fack they're doing here then.
Sky and BT's loyalties lie with their shareholders, not with any football club, their players, staff or supporters.
Our wellbeing is not their concern.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52462233
It seems FIFA's head doctor is against a premature return.
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 16 minutes ago
Your last line says more than I could, and pretty much sums up exactly where my mindset was at with my argument. I could be wrong obviously, I don't work on that industry so I'm speculating, but I know from running my own business that upsetting my primary supplier would be a poor decision that would affect my profitability long term.
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Yeah but if you know that that supplier is about to fack you off, do you start writing off unpaid bills or do you start asking for every penny?
If the supplier runs into trouble and they want your help, you'll give it to them only on condition that they don't get rid of you, or for some other benefit, no?
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Yeah, exactly that. Which is why I think all parties would come to an agreement which benefits them all, as they essentially need each others services at the end of the day. I'd imagine with competitors hovering, Sky and BT would see this as a perfect opportunity for a bit of leverage. They've nothing to gain if they upset the PL though, as I'm sure Amazon alone could match any future bid. Also, can the PL sell their rights to any bidder they choose? Or opt to exclude certain bidders they don't want to do business with? I don't actually know the answers to those two questions, just seems sensible.
BT's broadband is one of the most expensive nayway.
Without football they'd lose loads of customers.
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52462233
It seems FIFA's head doctor is against a premature return.
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do you really know people that aren't against a premature return?
Yes, several Liverpool fans on this forum.
Another day of Boris making a complete knobhead of himself
BT's broadband is one of the most expensive nayway.
Without football they'd lose loads of customers.
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I get BT Sport free
I thought the French had scrapped their season. Surely if they're doing that, then the other European leagues are likely to follow suit. So we will have to do the same. They'll only refuse to recognise the UK's lone season results anyway.
I already said it should have been scrapped immediately and efforts focused on damage limitation at grass roots and being able to start next season on time. Quite possible we may still be locked down or need to revert back to lockdown. Next season needs to be able to run even if that happens.
All this desperate grasping to MAYBE get a small minority of teams a trophy/promotion they MAYBE would have won if not for covid, is doing nothing but jeopardising next season too. Every team definitely suffering next season, so Liverpool wolves and Leicester can POSSIBLY benefit this one. Most unfair scenario of all, to the vast majority of teams. ESPECIALLY the little teams who end up losing games they may have won with their notorious 12th Man. THEY REALLY get fecked over by this closed door game crap. Without their crowds, they'll be getting tonked easily by bigger teams who would have/usually struggle/d for a win or point sometimes.
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comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
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I thought the French had scrapped their season. Surely if they're doing that, then the other European leagues are likely to follow suit. So we will have to do the same. They'll only refuse to recognise the UK's lone season results anyway.
I already said it should have been scrapped immediately and efforts focused on damage limitation at grass roots and being able to start next season on time. Quite possible we may still be locked down or need to revert back to lockdown. Next season needs to be able to run even if that happens.
All this desperate grasping to MAYBE get a small minority of teams a trophy/promotion they MAYBE would have won if not for covid, is doing nothing but jeopardising next season too. Every team definitely suffering next season, so Liverpool wolves and Leicester can POSSIBLY benefit this one. Most unfair scenario of all, to the vast majority of teams. ESPECIALLY the little teams who end up losing games they may have won with their notorious 12th Man. THEY REALLY get fecked over by this closed door game crap. Without their crowds, they'll be getting tonked easily by bigger teams who would have/usually struggle/d for a win or point sometimes.
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I don't know where to start with this. You might learn something from this
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-void-season-2020-coronavirus-liverpool-title-efl-legal-challenge-a9437081.html?amp
https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-what-could-happen-if-the-football-season-was-cancelled
Nearly everything you say is contrary to the actual situation on the ground IMO.
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 4 minutes ago
I thought the French had scrapped their season. Surely if they're doing that, then the other European leagues are likely to follow suit. So we will have to do the same. They'll only refuse to recognise the UK's lone season results anyway.
I already said it should have been scrapped immediately and efforts focused on damage limitation at grass roots and being able to start next season on time. Quite possible we may still be locked down or need to revert back to lockdown. Next season needs to be able to run even if that happens.
All this desperate grasping to MAYBE get a small minority of teams a trophy/promotion they MAYBE would have won if not for covid, is doing nothing but jeopardising next season too. Every team definitely suffering next season, so Liverpool wolves and Leicester can POSSIBLY benefit this one. Most unfair scenario of all, to the vast majority of teams. ESPECIALLY the little teams who end up losing games they may have won with their notorious 12th Man. THEY REALLY get fecked over by this closed door game crap. Without their crowds, they'll be getting tonked easily by bigger teams who would have/usually struggle/d for a win or point sometimes.
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I don't know where to start with this. You might learn something from this
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-void-season-2020-coronavirus-liverpool-title-efl-legal-challenge-a9437081.html?amp
https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-what-could-happen-if-the-football-season-was-cancelled
Nearly everything you say is contrary to the actual situation on the ground IMO.
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such a poor post, do some folk do no research.
I was on my way to Asda this morning and I caught the end of the Nicky Campbell phone in. There was a woman on with a thick scouse accent (never a good sign) and NC asked her if she could put her club allegiance to one side and understand why many people think the Prem should be declared null and void?
She said she had given it lots of consideration but she hadn't heard any good arguments as to why it shouldn't be played to a finish before next season starts. She can't of watched much news lately.
Thats what you are up against I'm afraid.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
I was on my way to Asda this morning and I caught the end of the Nicky Campbell phone in. There was a woman on with a thick scouse accent (never a good sign) and NC asked her if she could put her club allegiance to one side and understand why many people think the Prem should be declared null and void?
She said she had given it lots of consideration but she hadn't heard any good arguments as to why it shouldn't be played to a finish before next season starts. She can't of watched much news lately.
Thats what you are up against I'm afraid.
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Sounds to me like she was bang on the money.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-void-season-2020-coronavirus-liverpool-title-efl-legal-challenge-a9437081.html?amp
https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-what-could-happen-if-the-football-season-was-cancelled
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 3 minutes ago
interesting articles
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I know, right.
Good articles but this still comes down to a small minority of clubs. The ones whom were on course for promotion or league wins/qualifying spots. It's what 10-15 clubs out of what 90 odd (not sure total number of teams). So all those other teams have to suffer s BS remainder of a season, all so that few can gain whatever.
Still say void it myself. I don't buy the "Sporting integrity" argument at all. When the plan is to force the likes of Burnley and Sheffield Utd, to play supposed home games, without their crowd support. It's pretty much rigging the match vs the half billion pound team. Can't stack the deck that blatantly in favour of the big guns then spew a buncha crap about integrity.
Honestly a better option if Pool and co can't quit whining about money whilst people are dying. Is to simply CALL IT! End season now, declaring results at last standing and be done with it. Prom/Rels go ahead as normal and tough luck if you're going down or not going up. Every team had the chance to get the same number of points so they've all got themselves to blame for their position.
Why risk players getting injured for games nobody's watching (plenty won't bother watching on TV til crowds return). Call it now, tell Sky and the larger TV companies "Act of god, so do one. You can't have any money back cos we never MADE ANY DUE TO COVID, like everyone else except you and big pharma." Give whoever the pointless, empty accolades and move on. NEXT season (assuming life returned/ing to something like normal) MUST start on time. More they try to chase this one, is potentially a whole bunch more legal issues next season when everything is a total balls up because of the impacts of fecking about now. Void it or call it, just get it over and done with so everyone can focus on tackling 20/21. Either way changes inside stadiums WILL come next season. Clubs have a lot to do to prep do don't need this season dragging any more.
It’s being widely reported the 20/21 season will have to be played behind closed doors as well
Either you want sports back on played safely until a vaccine is found or no sports at all.
You won’t be seeing full stadiums for a long time.
Wouldn't be too concerned by EFL/Sky legal threats either. This situation will be a precedent issue. There'll be no legal decision made which could leave the state on the hook for millions, elsewhere. Ie companies able to sue government for a stack of cash/cashback, due to precedent set in sky/EFL case. NOT HAPPENING, so EFL and co might as well stop waving court papers now. Covid means the case could get booted straight away, if they're even allowed to file it. In fact a likely scenario is some sweeping government emergency legislation preventing cases of this nature being filed. Pretty sure EVERYBODY is trying/threatening to sue everyone else right now. So may well be NOBODY actually alllowed to sue anyone. Let's face, the entire world has a great excuse and valid argument.
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 5 minutes ago
Wouldn't be too concerned by EFL/Sky legal threats either. This situation will be a precedent issue. There'll be no legal decision made which could leave the state on the hook for millions, elsewhere. Ie companies able to sue government for a stack of cash/cashback, due to precedent set in sky/EFL case. NOT HAPPENING, so EFL and co might as well stop waving court papers now. Covid means the case could get booted straight away, if they're even allowed to file it. In fact a likely scenario is some sweeping government emergency legislation preventing cases of this nature being filed. Pretty sure EVERYBODY is trying/threatening to sue everyone else right now. So may well be NOBODY actually alllowed to sue anyone. Let's face, the entire world has a great excuse and valid argument.
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I'd say it's more likely to be declared current standings as final rather than completely voided. But I think it will be completed.
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comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
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posted 59 seconds ago
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posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 46 seconds ago
It is a genuine question how lower division clubs will manage, and I have no answer. But nor do I think a few, or more than a few, televised PL games, will rescue them.
I suppose they will have to appeal to their fans, local councils, endeavour to sell more season tickets, keep furlough until the last moment. It will be difficult, but we are in a perilous position.
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It's not specifically about a few televised games. It is hundreds of millions that will be lost out of the game if the season is ended. Now Prem teams will be hit hard, Norwich are already talking about 50 million plus losses if the season ends. That is across the board. Some can take that hit, but lower league clubs cannot. You have to understand that part of the TV deal includes money going down the leagues. Not enough, granted as clubs need gate receipts too. Whether they can survive with some kind of additional package over the next 3 years with Prem TV money I don't know. What seems to be the case though, is if that money goes back to SKY/BT, the lower league teams have no chance.
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It just wouldn't happen though. There's absolutely no benefit to Sky or BT to take this approach. A solution would obviously be found as both those firms will need to be in the race when the bidding comes around again, or they'll be on the road to a slow death. The TV companies need the PL more than the other way round, especially with psharks like Facebook/Amazon/Netflix circling around with a taste for blood. Far too much being made of this TV money issue.
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So you think that the TV companies pay out whilst not showing 30% of the games they have paid to show?/
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No, I didn't say that. I said they'd find a solution to suit both parties. Think about it - BT and Sky are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, not unless they think they can survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union.
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But you also said that they're facked anyway because of Amazon/Facebook etc. So they will have to survive the next decade showing Cricket, Darts and Rugby Union anyway.
Why would they make a deal then? What is in it for them?
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Let me break it down further then, as I thought it would already be obvious. Sky and BT need to be in that bidding war next time it comes around. Given Sky's long term partnership with the PL and their need to show their product, why wouldn't they look to find a solution given they'd be living on borrowed time without it?
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Bidding is open to everyone so that wouldn't be the prize they'd want for making this concession. Their bid will win if its the best bid, regardless of anything else. Also, your logic is that they're living on borrowed time already so why would they not claim their money back? If they don't claim this money, will that mean they are no longer on borrowed time?
There is no reason for Sky and BT to give up millions of pounds. You think they'll give up this money out of the goodness of their hearts? If they do its because they've been promised something, no doubt.
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Your last line says more than I could, and pretty much sums up exactly where my mindset was at with my argument. I could be wrong obviously, I don't work on that industry so I'm speculating, but I know from running my own business that upsetting my primary supplier would be a poor decision that would affect my profitability long term.
I've enjoyed our back and forths during all of this though. I think I'll miss it when everything gets back to normal
posted on 28/4/20
comment by RonAlvinho - Victoria Concordia Pathetic (U6117)
posted 9 minutes ago
Liverpool fans seem to forget that they were quickly heading towards the biggest bottle job ever seen before COVID reared its head.
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That's impossible. Nothing can beat the transition from Fergie to Moyes when it comes to bottle jobs. I mean, what were they thinking? 25 years of glory farted away.
posted on 28/4/20
Your last line says more than I could, and pretty much sums up exactly where my mindset was at with my argument. I could be wrong obviously, I don't work on that industry so I'm speculating, but I know from running my own business that upsetting my primary supplier would be a poor decision that would affect my profitability long term.
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Yeah but if you know that that supplier is about to fack you off, do you start writing off unpaid bills or do you start asking for every penny?
If the supplier runs into trouble and they want your help, you'll give it to them only on condition that they don't get rid of you, or for some other benefit, no?
posted on 28/4/20
I've enjoyed our back and forths during all of this though. I think I'll miss it when everything gets back to normal
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Yeah, you're what forums need IMO and been civil throughout. Some people don't take the back and forth so well and you wonder what the fack they're doing here then.
posted on 28/4/20
Sky and BT's loyalties lie with their shareholders, not with any football club, their players, staff or supporters.
Our wellbeing is not their concern.
posted on 28/4/20
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52462233
It seems FIFA's head doctor is against a premature return.
posted on 28/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 16 minutes ago
Your last line says more than I could, and pretty much sums up exactly where my mindset was at with my argument. I could be wrong obviously, I don't work on that industry so I'm speculating, but I know from running my own business that upsetting my primary supplier would be a poor decision that would affect my profitability long term.
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Yeah but if you know that that supplier is about to fack you off, do you start writing off unpaid bills or do you start asking for every penny?
If the supplier runs into trouble and they want your help, you'll give it to them only on condition that they don't get rid of you, or for some other benefit, no?
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Yeah, exactly that. Which is why I think all parties would come to an agreement which benefits them all, as they essentially need each others services at the end of the day. I'd imagine with competitors hovering, Sky and BT would see this as a perfect opportunity for a bit of leverage. They've nothing to gain if they upset the PL though, as I'm sure Amazon alone could match any future bid. Also, can the PL sell their rights to any bidder they choose? Or opt to exclude certain bidders they don't want to do business with? I don't actually know the answers to those two questions, just seems sensible.
posted on 28/4/20
BT's broadband is one of the most expensive nayway.
Without football they'd lose loads of customers.
posted on 28/4/20
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 4 hours, 15 minutes ago
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52462233
It seems FIFA's head doctor is against a premature return.
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do you really know people that aren't against a premature return?
posted on 28/4/20
Yes, several Liverpool fans on this forum.
posted on 28/4/20
Another day of Boris making a complete knobhead of himself
posted on 29/4/20
BT's broadband is one of the most expensive nayway.
Without football they'd lose loads of customers.
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I get BT Sport free
posted on 29/4/20
I thought the French had scrapped their season. Surely if they're doing that, then the other European leagues are likely to follow suit. So we will have to do the same. They'll only refuse to recognise the UK's lone season results anyway.
I already said it should have been scrapped immediately and efforts focused on damage limitation at grass roots and being able to start next season on time. Quite possible we may still be locked down or need to revert back to lockdown. Next season needs to be able to run even if that happens.
All this desperate grasping to MAYBE get a small minority of teams a trophy/promotion they MAYBE would have won if not for covid, is doing nothing but jeopardising next season too. Every team definitely suffering next season, so Liverpool wolves and Leicester can POSSIBLY benefit this one. Most unfair scenario of all, to the vast majority of teams. ESPECIALLY the little teams who end up losing games they may have won with their notorious 12th Man. THEY REALLY get fecked over by this closed door game crap. Without their crowds, they'll be getting tonked easily by bigger teams who would have/usually struggle/d for a win or point sometimes.
posted on 29/4/20
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posted on 29/4/20
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 4 minutes ago
I thought the French had scrapped their season. Surely if they're doing that, then the other European leagues are likely to follow suit. So we will have to do the same. They'll only refuse to recognise the UK's lone season results anyway.
I already said it should have been scrapped immediately and efforts focused on damage limitation at grass roots and being able to start next season on time. Quite possible we may still be locked down or need to revert back to lockdown. Next season needs to be able to run even if that happens.
All this desperate grasping to MAYBE get a small minority of teams a trophy/promotion they MAYBE would have won if not for covid, is doing nothing but jeopardising next season too. Every team definitely suffering next season, so Liverpool wolves and Leicester can POSSIBLY benefit this one. Most unfair scenario of all, to the vast majority of teams. ESPECIALLY the little teams who end up losing games they may have won with their notorious 12th Man. THEY REALLY get fecked over by this closed door game crap. Without their crowds, they'll be getting tonked easily by bigger teams who would have/usually struggle/d for a win or point sometimes.
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I don't know where to start with this. You might learn something from this
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-void-season-2020-coronavirus-liverpool-title-efl-legal-challenge-a9437081.html?amp
https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-what-could-happen-if-the-football-season-was-cancelled
Nearly everything you say is contrary to the actual situation on the ground IMO.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by Doggie Dog© - Psychic spies from China try to steal your mind's elation (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 4 minutes ago
I thought the French had scrapped their season. Surely if they're doing that, then the other European leagues are likely to follow suit. So we will have to do the same. They'll only refuse to recognise the UK's lone season results anyway.
I already said it should have been scrapped immediately and efforts focused on damage limitation at grass roots and being able to start next season on time. Quite possible we may still be locked down or need to revert back to lockdown. Next season needs to be able to run even if that happens.
All this desperate grasping to MAYBE get a small minority of teams a trophy/promotion they MAYBE would have won if not for covid, is doing nothing but jeopardising next season too. Every team definitely suffering next season, so Liverpool wolves and Leicester can POSSIBLY benefit this one. Most unfair scenario of all, to the vast majority of teams. ESPECIALLY the little teams who end up losing games they may have won with their notorious 12th Man. THEY REALLY get fecked over by this closed door game crap. Without their crowds, they'll be getting tonked easily by bigger teams who would have/usually struggle/d for a win or point sometimes.
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I don't know where to start with this. You might learn something from this
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-void-season-2020-coronavirus-liverpool-title-efl-legal-challenge-a9437081.html?amp
https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-what-could-happen-if-the-football-season-was-cancelled
Nearly everything you say is contrary to the actual situation on the ground IMO.
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such a poor post, do some folk do no research.
posted on 29/4/20
Nope!
posted on 29/4/20
I was on my way to Asda this morning and I caught the end of the Nicky Campbell phone in. There was a woman on with a thick scouse accent (never a good sign) and NC asked her if she could put her club allegiance to one side and understand why many people think the Prem should be declared null and void?
She said she had given it lots of consideration but she hadn't heard any good arguments as to why it shouldn't be played to a finish before next season starts. She can't of watched much news lately.
Thats what you are up against I'm afraid.
posted on 29/4/20
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 9 minutes ago
I was on my way to Asda this morning and I caught the end of the Nicky Campbell phone in. There was a woman on with a thick scouse accent (never a good sign) and NC asked her if she could put her club allegiance to one side and understand why many people think the Prem should be declared null and void?
She said she had given it lots of consideration but she hadn't heard any good arguments as to why it shouldn't be played to a finish before next season starts. She can't of watched much news lately.
Thats what you are up against I'm afraid.
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Sounds to me like she was bang on the money.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/premier-league-void-season-2020-coronavirus-liverpool-title-efl-legal-challenge-a9437081.html?amp
https://www.euronews.com/2020/03/13/coronavirus-what-could-happen-if-the-football-season-was-cancelled
posted on 29/4/20
interesting articles
posted on 29/4/20
comment by Prankster - I love myself better than you. (U22336)
posted 3 minutes ago
interesting articles
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I know, right.
posted on 2/5/20
Good articles but this still comes down to a small minority of clubs. The ones whom were on course for promotion or league wins/qualifying spots. It's what 10-15 clubs out of what 90 odd (not sure total number of teams). So all those other teams have to suffer s BS remainder of a season, all so that few can gain whatever.
Still say void it myself. I don't buy the "Sporting integrity" argument at all. When the plan is to force the likes of Burnley and Sheffield Utd, to play supposed home games, without their crowd support. It's pretty much rigging the match vs the half billion pound team. Can't stack the deck that blatantly in favour of the big guns then spew a buncha crap about integrity.
Honestly a better option if Pool and co can't quit whining about money whilst people are dying. Is to simply CALL IT! End season now, declaring results at last standing and be done with it. Prom/Rels go ahead as normal and tough luck if you're going down or not going up. Every team had the chance to get the same number of points so they've all got themselves to blame for their position.
Why risk players getting injured for games nobody's watching (plenty won't bother watching on TV til crowds return). Call it now, tell Sky and the larger TV companies "Act of god, so do one. You can't have any money back cos we never MADE ANY DUE TO COVID, like everyone else except you and big pharma." Give whoever the pointless, empty accolades and move on. NEXT season (assuming life returned/ing to something like normal) MUST start on time. More they try to chase this one, is potentially a whole bunch more legal issues next season when everything is a total balls up because of the impacts of fecking about now. Void it or call it, just get it over and done with so everyone can focus on tackling 20/21. Either way changes inside stadiums WILL come next season. Clubs have a lot to do to prep do don't need this season dragging any more.
posted on 2/5/20
It’s being widely reported the 20/21 season will have to be played behind closed doors as well
Either you want sports back on played safely until a vaccine is found or no sports at all.
You won’t be seeing full stadiums for a long time.
posted on 2/5/20
Wouldn't be too concerned by EFL/Sky legal threats either. This situation will be a precedent issue. There'll be no legal decision made which could leave the state on the hook for millions, elsewhere. Ie companies able to sue government for a stack of cash/cashback, due to precedent set in sky/EFL case. NOT HAPPENING, so EFL and co might as well stop waving court papers now. Covid means the case could get booted straight away, if they're even allowed to file it. In fact a likely scenario is some sweeping government emergency legislation preventing cases of this nature being filed. Pretty sure EVERYBODY is trying/threatening to sue everyone else right now. So may well be NOBODY actually alllowed to sue anyone. Let's face, the entire world has a great excuse and valid argument.
posted on 2/5/20
comment by WB2 (Emery'll Get Me Killed) (U8276)
posted 5 minutes ago
Wouldn't be too concerned by EFL/Sky legal threats either. This situation will be a precedent issue. There'll be no legal decision made which could leave the state on the hook for millions, elsewhere. Ie companies able to sue government for a stack of cash/cashback, due to precedent set in sky/EFL case. NOT HAPPENING, so EFL and co might as well stop waving court papers now. Covid means the case could get booted straight away, if they're even allowed to file it. In fact a likely scenario is some sweeping government emergency legislation preventing cases of this nature being filed. Pretty sure EVERYBODY is trying/threatening to sue everyone else right now. So may well be NOBODY actually alllowed to sue anyone. Let's face, the entire world has a great excuse and valid argument.
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I'd say it's more likely to be declared current standings as final rather than completely voided. But I think it will be completed.
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