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comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
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comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 22 minutes ago
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What if black players say enough?
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I think they're more like enough is enough, we not taking it silently anymore. I personally don't think they will stop until they see some real progress...
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Zaha spoke to say enough already with the knee.

Black players at Rangers said no more to Gerrard recent, so did not take a knee.

Other clubs and players gave said it has been done and there ate other ways to oppose racism...kick it out in place etc.

Take the knee came from American identity politics.

It is not set in stone and does not stop racism or racists.

If players want to keep doing it, so be it.


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No, it’s actually taken from the American Civil Rights movement.

At least learn the f*cking basics of a topic before commenting on it.

comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Other clubs and players gave said it has been done and there ate other ways to oppose racism...kick it out in place etc
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If Kick it out was actually working, then racism wouldn't be getting worse and the players wouldn't feel the need to take a knee as well as work with Kick it Out.
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Why do you think racism is getting worse?
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Because we’ve had the likes or Trump, Johnson, Putin, Bolsenaro and Mohdi giving people permission to be their worst selves.

comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Other clubs and players gave said it has been done and there ate other ways to oppose racism...kick it out in place etc
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If Kick it out was actually working, then racism wouldn't be getting worse and the players wouldn't feel the need to take a knee as well as work with Kick it Out.
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Why do you think racism is getting worse?
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Because I see, read and hear it getting worse with my own eyes and/OR its always been like this but just filmed nowadays..
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There's greater capacity to be easily racist now via social media. I doubt most of these dullards bothered to write back in the day.
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It is easier now. But is racism on the rise or has the racist population been static, and the only difference is they now have a platform?
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They're both basically the same thing....

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comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 41 seconds ago
Perhaps rephrase. Are the number of racists increasing?
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I don't know for sure but it feels like it.

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 41 seconds ago
Perhaps rephrase. Are the number of racists increasing?
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I don't know for sure but it feels like it.
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I don't know if they're increasing, but their actions are being called out more frequently and publically now

comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 41 seconds ago
Perhaps rephrase. Are the number of racists increasing?
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I don't know for sure but it feels like it.
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I don't know if they're increasing, but their actions are being called out more frequently and publically now
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That is the biggest change I can think of, we're just calling it out more these days.

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 41 seconds ago
Perhaps rephrase. Are the number of racists increasing?
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I don't know for sure but it feels like it.
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I don't know if they're increasing, but their actions are being called out more frequently and publically now
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That is the biggest change I can think of, we're just calling it out more these days.
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There's little doubt the far right is on the rise both at home and abroad though.

comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 41 seconds ago
Perhaps rephrase. Are the number of racists increasing?
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I don't know for sure but it feels like it.
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I don't know if they're increasing, but their actions are being called out more frequently and publically now
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That is the biggest change I can think of, we're just calling it out more these days.
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There's little doubt the far right is on the rise both at home and abroad though.
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Its been a period of right wing populism around the world, Trump, Johnson's government etc.

People get emboldened in climates like that

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comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 41 seconds ago
Perhaps rephrase. Are the number of racists increasing?
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I don't know for sure but it feels like it.
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I don't know if they're increasing, but their actions are being called out more frequently and publically now
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That is the biggest change I can think of, we're just calling it out more these days.
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There's little doubt the far right is on the rise both at home and abroad though.
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Its been a period of right wing populism around the world, Trump, Johnson's government etc.

People get emboldened in climates like that
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Not sure about that. I think a lot of it has been overplayed, taken out of context and become a hollow narrative.
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Dunno, there's no definitive answer to that, but when you have an American president refusing to condemn murder by white supremacists in Charlottesville, and a UK Prime Minister saying with impunity that women in burkas look like letterboxes it creates a climate of validation for a certain type of person. It's got to contribute.

comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - Legacy Fan (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 41 seconds ago
Perhaps rephrase. Are the number of racists increasing?
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I don't know for sure but it feels like it.
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I don't know if they're increasing, but their actions are being called out more frequently and publically now
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That is the biggest change I can think of, we're just calling it out more these days.
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There's little doubt the far right is on the rise both at home and abroad though.
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Its been a period of right wing populism around the world, Trump, Johnson's government etc.

People get emboldened in climates like that
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Not sure about that. I think a lot of it has been overplayed, taken out of context and become a hollow narrative.
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Dunno, there's no definitive answer to that, but when you have an American president refusing to condemn murder by white supremacists in Charlottesville, and a UK Prime Minister saying with impunity that women in burkas look like letterboxes it creates a climate of validation for a certain type of person. It's got to contribute.
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There's no way that things are worse than they were 10/15 years ago.

If you look at the mainstream support to stamp out racism it is obvious to see that we, as a society, have made massive strides and continue to do so which is something that we should be doing.

Bank of America donated 1 billion USD to BLM last year to help the cause along with many other corporations supporting the cause. There are many affirmative action programmes and trainings that are happening more and more now to help fight against racism as well.

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Dunno, there's no definitive answer to that, but when you have an American president refusing to condemn murder by white supremacists in Charlottesville, and a UK Prime Minister saying with impunity that women in burkas look like letterboxes it creates a climate of validation for a certain type of person. It's got to contribute.
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The first example isn't really true. The second is British humour that gets muddled up with current social politics.
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Come on, a guy literally drives into a group of people protesting,at a high speed , kill's 1,and the president says 'there's good people on both sides' wtf! He literally couldn't bring himself to even say that the hit and run guy was a nob.

comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Dunno, there's no definitive answer to that, but when you have an American president refusing to condemn murder by white supremacists in Charlottesville, and a UK Prime Minister saying with impunity that women in burkas look like letterboxes it creates a climate of validation for a certain type of person. It's got to contribute.
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The first example isn't really true. The second is British humour that gets muddled up with current social politics.
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Come on, a guy literally drives into a group of people protesting,at a high speed , kill's 1,and the president says 'there's good people on both sides' wtf! He literally couldn't bring himself to even say that the hit and run guy was a nob.
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I'm not buying the British humour angle either. Were Ollie Robinson's tweets just British humour?

You can't have a climate where people can say what they want and apologists laugh it off as British humour or childish hi-jinks.

There's no way that things are worse than they were 10/15 years ago.

If you look at the mainstream support to stamp out racism it is obvious to see that we, as a society, have made massive strides and continue to do so which is something that we should be doing.

Bank of America donated 1 billion USD to BLM last year to help the cause along with many other corporations supporting the cause. There are many affirmative action programmes and trainings that are happening more and more now to help fight against racism as well.
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I just said it FEELS worse than 10-15 years ago personally. There is a whole lot of posturing going on about supporting anti-racism but no-one is really doing anything about it. if anything, i think the media (papers) are fuelling the racists,daily, much more than 10-15 years ago.

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Ugh, back to the tired twisty defences of trump...

as usual

There are no "good people" on the side of white supremacy.

I cannot believe you just typed that tbh

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comment by Just Shoot, now a Marxist (U10408)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by The Post Nearly Man Says Every Single One Of Us Loves Alex Ferguson (U1270)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by AFCISMYTEAM (U14931)
posted 1 minute ago
Dunno, there's no definitive answer to that, but when you have an American president refusing to condemn murder by white supremacists in Charlottesville, and a UK Prime Minister saying with impunity that women in burkas look like letterboxes it creates a climate of validation for a certain type of person. It's got to contribute.
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The first example isn't really true. The second is British humour that gets muddled up with current social politics.
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Come on, a guy literally drives into a group of people protesting,at a high speed , kill's 1,and the president says 'there's good people on both sides' wtf! He literally couldn't bring himself to even say that the hit and run guy was a nob.
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I'm not buying the British humour angle either. Were Ollie Robinson's tweets just British humour?

You can't have a climate where people can say what they want and apologists laugh it off as British humour or childish hi-jinks.
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Harry Enfield and scousers, Little Britain and g@ys, that Lauren ch#v, etc. All Mickey taking over clothing choice.
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Johnson's quote was in a serious piece about banning the veil / burka in Denmark and the implications of doing it in Britain, not a sketch show.

You might as well have quoted Love Thy Neighbour and Til Death Do Us Part as well, I don't think Little Britain would be doing the same gags these days.