I agree that Keane is only scraping onto the list. World class players are able to be the best players in any league. I do not think Keane and Gerrard would have been stars in La Liga, we hugely overrate the prem.
Complete doesnt mean world class
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Nan bread
The title is Best CMs ever. So they have to be world class.
Yh scholes would be god in spain
comment by Robbing_Hoody I taught Reina to flap (U6374)
posted 6 seconds ago
Elvis (U7425)
Because people, stupidkly are saying he does not have technical ability when he can play every position on the pitch and has done. Complete footballer = World Class.
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I didn't say he doesn't have technical ability - I said he can't dictate the tempo of a game and he cant.
Playing in every position on the pitch doesn't mean he is a great player. I have played in every position, including in goals! So I must be better than Gerrard.
As I said, the fact that he can play in other positions does not prove that he is a world class CM. It just proves that he is proficient in those other positions.
So you will agree that Fabregas should go off the list as well?
Elvis...
im afraid it wasnt....
Hippo on Toast (mufc) - he said no arsene, he said no, he said no arsene, he said no, to the contract, he said no. (U1301)
posted 21 minutes ago
what has he done scouse heart? never even won the league, it's pathetic.
but cant answer a straight forward question about his own logic.. also by my reckoning as Milan Baros won the Champs Lge and RVP has only won FA cup for an English team that makes Baros better...you have wasted some money on RVP!!!
My bad, you weren't talking to me
comment by GregUnited - filtering is for the weak! (U1192)
posted 3 minutes ago
aha no, im not that old.
it just annoys me how people say greatest midfielders of all time and only add recent players.
similar to people who think messi is the greatest player of all time which is just ridiculous
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Why should it annoy you? Not everyone got into football at the same time.
Being 25, I only started watching football at around 94, so much of my knowledge is from that date onwards.
Doesn't it annoy you more when people say Pele and Maradona are the greatest two players when most have not even seen them play, especially Pele??
For me its:
Zidane, Ronaldinho and Gullit as all time greats.
comment by Nan bread (U11386)
posted 1 minute ago
Complete doesnt mean world class
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Exactly.
I said a complete player does not mean world class andre samba
Hippo
So is Luke Chadwock better than Gerrard??
comment by scouse-heart (U3234)
posted 47 seconds ago
Elvis...
im afraid it wasnt....
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My bad - sorry.
Doesn't it annoy you more when people say Pele and Maradona are the greatest two players when most have not even seen them play, especially Pele??
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I agree. This is why my list is of the players i have seen.
For me Zidane has to be the best player of all time, a complete player.
andre's samba scarf (U6253)
Which is why English teams get to more CL finals than Spanish? Think you hugely overrate La Liga.
I'm astonished to be honest that people let petty rivalries get in the way.
People are listing players they admire rather than look at what makes up a team on a football pitch.
Bet you all think Scholes is World class. We'll if you put 11 Gerrards in against 11 Scholes there would only be one winner.
Opinion of peers and greatests managers of all time > opinion bitter rival fans.
Yes I would take Fabregas off the list, and Alonso. They're careers are no where near the end.
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Hippo on Toast (mufc) - he said no arsene, he said no, he said no arsene, he said no, to the contract, he said no. (U1301)
Utter nonsense to the point that you sound weird.
I'm going with Fergie.
comment by Robbing_Hoody I taught Reina to flap
Bet you all think Scholes is World class. We'll if you put 11 Gerrards in against 11 Scholes there would only be one winner.
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Hmmmm, im not sure that the Gerrards would ever be able to get the ball of the Scholes'. Either way, the point is irrelevant in a discussion about world class CMs.
No one can get the ball off 1 scholes let alone 11
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posted on 4/9/12
I agree that Keane is only scraping onto the list. World class players are able to be the best players in any league. I do not think Keane and Gerrard would have been stars in La Liga, we hugely overrate the prem.
posted on 4/9/12
Complete doesnt mean world class
posted on 4/9/12
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posted on 4/9/12
Nan bread
The title is Best CMs ever. So they have to be world class.
posted on 4/9/12
Yh scholes would be god in spain
posted on 4/9/12
comment by Robbing_Hoody I taught Reina to flap (U6374)
posted 6 seconds ago
Elvis (U7425)
Because people, stupidkly are saying he does not have technical ability when he can play every position on the pitch and has done. Complete footballer = World Class.
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I didn't say he doesn't have technical ability - I said he can't dictate the tempo of a game and he cant.
Playing in every position on the pitch doesn't mean he is a great player. I have played in every position, including in goals! So I must be better than Gerrard.
As I said, the fact that he can play in other positions does not prove that he is a world class CM. It just proves that he is proficient in those other positions.
posted on 4/9/12
So you will agree that Fabregas should go off the list as well?
posted on 4/9/12
Elvis...
im afraid it wasnt....
Hippo on Toast (mufc) - he said no arsene, he said no, he said no arsene, he said no, to the contract, he said no. (U1301)
posted 21 minutes ago
what has he done scouse heart? never even won the league, it's pathetic.
but cant answer a straight forward question about his own logic.. also by my reckoning as Milan Baros won the Champs Lge and RVP has only won FA cup for an English team that makes Baros better...you have wasted some money on RVP!!!
posted on 4/9/12
My bad, you weren't talking to me
posted on 4/9/12
comment by GregUnited - filtering is for the weak! (U1192)
posted 3 minutes ago
aha no, im not that old.
it just annoys me how people say greatest midfielders of all time and only add recent players.
similar to people who think messi is the greatest player of all time which is just ridiculous
-----------------------------------------
Why should it annoy you? Not everyone got into football at the same time.
Being 25, I only started watching football at around 94, so much of my knowledge is from that date onwards.
Doesn't it annoy you more when people say Pele and Maradona are the greatest two players when most have not even seen them play, especially Pele??
For me its:
Zidane, Ronaldinho and Gullit as all time greats.
posted on 4/9/12
comment by Nan bread (U11386)
posted 1 minute ago
Complete doesnt mean world class
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Exactly.
posted on 4/9/12
I said a complete player does not mean world class andre samba
posted on 4/9/12
Hippo
So is Luke Chadwock better than Gerrard??
posted on 4/9/12
comment by scouse-heart (U3234)
posted 47 seconds ago
Elvis...
im afraid it wasnt....
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My bad - sorry.
posted on 4/9/12
*Chadwick
posted on 4/9/12
Doesn't it annoy you more when people say Pele and Maradona are the greatest two players when most have not even seen them play, especially Pele??
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I agree. This is why my list is of the players i have seen.
For me Zidane has to be the best player of all time, a complete player.
posted on 4/9/12
andre's samba scarf (U6253)
Which is why English teams get to more CL finals than Spanish? Think you hugely overrate La Liga.
I'm astonished to be honest that people let petty rivalries get in the way.
People are listing players they admire rather than look at what makes up a team on a football pitch.
Bet you all think Scholes is World class. We'll if you put 11 Gerrards in against 11 Scholes there would only be one winner.
Opinion of peers and greatests managers of all time > opinion bitter rival fans.
posted on 4/9/12
Yes I would take Fabregas off the list, and Alonso. They're careers are no where near the end.
posted on 4/9/12
*Their
posted on 4/9/12
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posted on 4/9/12
Elvis.
No worries.
posted on 4/9/12
Hippo on Toast (mufc) - he said no arsene, he said no, he said no arsene, he said no, to the contract, he said no. (U1301)
Utter nonsense to the point that you sound weird.
I'm going with Fergie.
posted on 4/9/12
Scholes > gerrard
posted on 4/9/12
comment by Robbing_Hoody I taught Reina to flap
Bet you all think Scholes is World class. We'll if you put 11 Gerrards in against 11 Scholes there would only be one winner.
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Hmmmm, im not sure that the Gerrards would ever be able to get the ball of the Scholes'. Either way, the point is irrelevant in a discussion about world class CMs.
posted on 4/9/12
No one can get the ball off 1 scholes let alone 11
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