But surely a bunch of fairies creating it is another possibility, there's the same amount of proof of fairies than there is of a god?

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I'm not denying that, but we both know the comment you made regarding a 'bunch of fairies' is clearly a dig at the possibility of a God.

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Look at evolution for example, I believe 100% that we evolve within a species but struggle to believe species evolve from one to another. Why have they stopped then?
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This doesnt seem logical to me.

How would you definie "spicies" in this analysis ? What makes you think that a species can evolve to the limit of whatever your definition is, but no further ?

Exactly bright dave

For example; Gregor Mendel a pioneer geneticist was a Catholic priest.

Religion and Science are not enemies and people need to understand that

Religion should be a personal matter, and should not lead to a gathering or organized method of religion, which could lead to death and discrimination.

One's personal religion should not affect others, and we should not be labelled into different categories. Religion is much more than being organized into different areas, and should be personal.

I lean towards the idea that religion shouldn't affect politics, but it seems that it does around the world. This is the reason why I cannot believe in an almighty and all powerful God, because he would not allow this.

Either God doesn't exist, isn't as knowledgeable as people say or he has failed.

I would lean towards a being or non being that we can't understand, and never will.

I'm not denying that, but we both know the comment you made regarding a 'bunch of fairies' is clearly a dig at the possibility of a God.
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Of course it's clearly a dig, but exactly the same premise remains, you require faith to believe in both, there is absolutely no proof that either exists.

Look at evolution for example, I believe 100% that we evolve within a species but struggle to believe species evolve from one to another. Why have they stopped then?

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Have we stopped evolving?

Look at the dexterity and additional movement scientists see in thumbs over the last 20 years

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Brightdave, questioning the evidence Dawkins presents may weaken his argument but it doesn't strengthen the case for god. Dawkins and Stephen Jay Gould have many disagreements about the details of Darwin's theory but they both believed in it totally. As a layman I'm convinced by his basic arguments and to my limited knowledge Darwin's theory can explain any mutations, no matter how seemingly ridiculously conincidental.

Conversely, the arguments put forward by creationists are ludicrous and wafer thin. But that again does not invlidate the argument for god.

LETTUCE is proof mutation occurs

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Look at evolution for example, I believe 100% that we evolve within a species but struggle to believe species evolve from one to another. Why have they stopped then?
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This doesnt seem logical to me.

How would you definie "spicies" in this analysis ? What makes you think that a species can evolve to the limit of whatever your definition is, but no further ?
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Species in my analysis would refer to an individual group of organisms, e.g. Man

I would explain this simply by saying, why has evolution from species to species stopped?

We should have more evidence of this happening and be able to track it.

If we can still evolve within our respective species, why has evolution from one species to the next stopped?

Read a blog today about the Denver shootings, the first reply in the comments is an absolute beauty.

http://religion.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/28/my-take-this-is-where-god-was-in-aurora/comment-page-1/
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That is brilliant

Science is working toward the end goal of showing how the Universe and anything else was created. Religeion has done nothing to further our understanding, imagine if we only had once science text book, which was a little blurred round the main so called facts

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Look at evolution for example, I believe 100% that we evolve within a species but struggle to believe species evolve from one to another. Why have they stopped then?

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Have we stopped evolving?

Look at the dexterity and additional movement scientists see in thumbs over the last 20 years
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I said we evolve within a species but do not believe one species evolves to another.

Even unicellular organisms do not evolve from one to the other. How many amoeba's have evolved to paramecium's?

The evidence of this happening is at best questionable and if it were true (science contradicts itself here as well), we should see this happening now.

‘cause and effect’.
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cause and effect is important in construction claims.

normally, in order to provide a valid claim for extension of time, disruption costs etc, you need to do two things :

1. identify an event which had a relevant consequence (the cause), and estalish liability for that event

2. demonstrate the cause of that event

Of rcourse just because you arent able to prove it, doesnt mean that it doesnt exist, it just means that you dont get paid for it.

Now then, to try to draw an analogy with God. I suppose one could say that although it would be nice to be able to prove it, the fact that we can't doesnt mean that it didnt happen.

Of course, what we ultimately really care about in this instance, isnt the cause of what has taken place to date, but rather the effect which is as yet unknown to us.

If we can still evolve within our respective species, why has evolution from one species to the next stopped?
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Who's to say it has stopped? Evolution from species to species supposedly takes millions of years. Are you expecting someone to witness it?

With regards to the world ending, has anybody here ever seen Daniel's timeline?

I wouldn't call myself Christian or Jewish but Daniel's timeline is absolutely fascinating and will blow your mind if you watch it the whole way through. I was shown by my girlfriend's uncle who is a Messianic Jew and it was fascinating.

Check it out anybody interesting in that sort of thing.

Yawn. Who cares, we will never know. Personally I find the exsistance of a 'god' hard to believe.

Especially with the vastness of space.

Evolution in humans has stopped because we have the technology to keep people alive and allow them to reproduce, even if they have genetic weaknesses.

Most species haven't stopped evolving.

I have one question?

If this almighty and all powerful God does exist, hasn't he failed us?

* 2. demonstrate the effect of that event *

jpb

I would explain this simply by saying, why has evolution from species to species stopped?
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It hasn't stopped. It just takes ages.